Survival: Beyond the Bug-Out Bag

Become The Person Your Future Self Can Count On

• Bill Bateman • Season 8 • Episode 5

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Share the takeaways from my live class at SOU this January. Excerpts highlight: A store-bought survival kit full of tiny bandages and cotton puffs is funny until someone’s bleeding. That hard-won moment kicks off a practical tour through modern preparedness: what to pack, what to skip, and how to stay effective when plans collide with reality. We share field-tested upgrades across three missions—staying home, getting home, and surviving in your car—so your gear works where life actually happens: shelters, motels, closed highways, smoky skies, and dark neighborhoods.

We dig into the shift from the old three-day rule to a smarter thirty-day baseline and show how to build modular kits that stack like Legos. You’ll learn why neutral “gray” bags reduce risk, how to stage essentials for fast exits, and where redundancy matters most (yes, carry two can openers). We also discuss lighting strategy: compact chem lights, powerful rechargeable flashlights that double as deterrents, and simple squeeze torches that keep shining when batteries die.

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Why Share The Class Audio

SPEAKER_00

I've been thinking about doing this for a good long time, and now is the perfect time with the way things are going to put this idea into play. I'll explain what I'm talking about when you come on in. Grab some coffee and let's get started. Well, hi everybody. Part of the team here. Refuse to be a victim personal protection training. We are located in the Medford, White City area of Southern Oregon at 6800 Kershaw Boulevard. That's where Kershaw and Corey come together in that rather significant sharp turn. 20 miles an hour is about your top speed on that curve. It really is. And what I've been thinking of for a long time, I took six weeks and I did a course at SOU through OLI, OLLI, the After Lifelong Learning Institute, and it was survival beyond the bug out bag. And I basically am teaching people who are new, but they're new today. It's not like some of you who have been with me for the 10 years we've been doing this program. And this is good information for new people. This is updated things I'm talking about two weeks ago, three weeks ago, things like that. So the idea is this is the audio from the course I was teaching. We've tried to make it so the voices are unidentifiable. I've done quite a bit of editing on these. But the information is new. And with things changing, more and more people are getting involved in prepping, uh, getting ready for emergency situations. And I think that's a good idea. So by doing that, by getting ready to prep, you're not going to be a victim, you're going to be able to be self-sufficient. So what we're going to do is join the class in progress. You'll hear some mumbling, and then we'll just begin. Uh, you'll catch me in mid-sentence, and these run for about 30 minutes. I'll be cutting these in for about the next three weeks uh where you'll have an opportunity to uh get the latest information, refresh some of the information in your memory banks, or if you're a new listener, you have come at an excellent time, and I think you will get a lot of good information. So we'll kind of uh make a few technical switches and we'll fire this thing up. Let's get rolling. That's what this is. This is like a little tiny metal. I'll sure these will be up here at the break if you want to come see them. And what this is, this is for a larger can, like a coffee can size. And you use this and you basically roll around the can. It takes 50. I think they call this a model 54 because it takes 54 punches. The 36, which is smaller, which is for a soup can, takes 36 punches. So there's that. Uh, these are great. I put a piece of tape on this because this little sharp edge is by design a sharp cutting edge. And if it's at the bottom of your bag or the bottom of your pocket, it can make for a nasty surprise. So it is, however, with a piece of tape on it, something I have in my pocket most of the time. Uh, maybe a special on canned ravioli somewhere, and I need to do that. I'd have two of those. Two is one, one is none. It's going to drop to the bottom of my bag, it's going to disappear into a corner of my backpack, it's going to fall on the floor of the car. Now I have no can opener. I've got my buck knife, and I'm trying to claw my way into the coffee. So a couple of things are good, especially something that's very important. Now, the old wisdom, as I said, uh, have enough for three days. They still put it on some websites, and it bothers me. Bothers me terribly. Uh 10 years ago, three days is what you needed. Have a backpack, have your information for after, and have food, water, supplies, toothbrush, toilet paper, change of clothes, that type of thing. Now it's a month. Minimum. Minimum 30 days, and we talked about that. Uh don't get the idea that you're going to be sleeping in the woods in a Coleman, like we had in the picture last week. Uh, you're going to be in a shelter with a thousand of a closest, a thousand of your closest friends. Good morning. Or you will be um in a motel, or you might be sleeping in your car somewhere in someone's driveway. But uh things will change. Now, bug-out bags, there are all kinds of them. And I'm gonna give you a little story on this, how I got into this overall. I may have touched on this last week, so I'll give you the annotated version. We have uh going back to the time of the Northridge earthquake, okay, way back in the day before the flood. We had uh a lot of earthquake stop, drop, and roll, real big in California. Go gonna have an earthquake. We have to be ready. So I went to Costco and I was taken in. I had a wife and a small child, and we were uh worried about what's gonna happen. Uh basically, I took the plunge and spent$280 on a go bag. Pre-made. It was from Costco. What could go wrong? Well, it looked like, if you've ever seen one, a parachute. Parachutes are tightly packed, they're big, they almost look like they're ready to burst out at the last, and this one this item was full of stuff. Now, the problem is it was full of stuff. Earthquake happens, run around, run around. Talk the guy out of checking for gas leaks with a lighter. That was an interesting conversation. And a guy had gotten cut. One of my neighbors, glass broke, he had a fairly substantial cut on his arm.

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From Three Days To Thirty

SPEAKER_00

Bugaubag to the rescue, I'm ready. Here we go. I can help you, sir. I unzipped this thing, which promptly exploded all over my living room. I found for my first aid, I had close to a thousand didn't tiny band-aids. They weren't even Zeri strips, those things you use when you get stitches to hold strips to get no. These were those needed tiny cosmetic band-aids, and I had some little Q-tips and some cotton balls. I could have taken off my wife's makeup very nicely, but as far as stopping serious bleeding, uh-uh. I, and most of the stuff in there was cheap, poorly made, didn't work uh, or did not work as expected. So that's when I got that was my catalyst. So, uh-uh. Not only could I not help this person who got help from the guy next door, but I look like a fool in front of my wife, in front of my son. And I didn't care for that. And it's not so much the ego, it's the fact I could not be effective. And that to me is what's important. Being a f I don't care. Hey, make fun of me if you want to, but I wanted to make sure I could help my family. I had bought poorly and I could not do it. So uh there's a thing here, ready gov. And here's a common problem. Oops, we can't find this page. A lot of government websites, because of the current problems, are having this problem. Uh, oops, can't find it. 404. Uh, we'll come back and we'll give you a good link for that. But uh know that you will find, despite our best efforts, I went through prior to class and checked every link in the class, and uh somebody reported, well, I can't get a link. Yeah. Also, the uh Atlantic article has been moved behind a paywall. So there's that. These are things I can't control, but these are things part of critical thinking. How else might you find that information? Okay, we're gonna look at all kinds of bags. Uh, the shelter in place or stay home bag is your best of all possible worlds. If it's realistic in a fire, not so much. But if you can stay home, great. Second point, your get home bag. You're someplace else, you gotta get home. You're at work. I'm at SOU right now. I have to get home if there's a problem. Can I do that? What do I need in my condition, which is going to be different than your condition, to get from here to where your house is. A road bag, and this is very simple. If you've ever taken a vacation, my former and I used to uh cram a 1,500 square foot home into a minivan and take our trips. And it was it was interesting. Now we'll talk a little bit more about what you need if you're on the road and what happens, and should in fact the car break down or the road break down or be closed or impassable because of an earthquake or a landslide. Survival in your car on the road.

SPEAKER_03

So should given times of high high fire danger and all that, should one have most of this stuff put into your back of your car if you have to leave quickly, like your sleeping bag and some food and all that stuff?

Bug-Out Reality And Shelter Options

SPEAKER_00

Well, I have, and we're this is exactly what we're talking about right now.

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Okay.

The Bad Pre-Made Bag Lesson

SPEAKER_00

Uh we have sheltering at home is the best plan. And you should have your supplies in your home. We stage, which means if uh uh fire alert, fire watch goes off and says level two, uh-oh, uh, we start putting things by the front door. Uh, and that's the thumb drives with the backpacks. We start looking at food out of the refrigerator and shifting things around in case the power goes out. I have things in the car also. This is not a one-and-done solution, as I said. You will all find as you begin getting into this on a greater and greater uh scale. I have a car, I have just brought in uh my first aid kit from the car to show you. Uh I have blankets, I have, and I'm going to show you this in just a second. Have things in the car that when you take things from the house you add to them. Think Legos. Something these are big, giant Legos. Legos. Kids' toys. You get the real tiny ones and step on them in your bare feet about three in the morning and burst incredible strings of profanity and wake up the baby and get in trouble for it. It's uh, you know, so the thing from the house joins the thing in the car, and now you have more supplies that extend your range. That is the basic idea of what we're doing. If you have kids, grandkids in your case, but for some of the watchers, you may have younger children, uh, kids at school, you're on vacation. Some of you are riding Splash Mountains, some of you are uh going on It's a Small World, or going through the detox trying to get that stupid song out of your head. Uh if you're at work, when I worked here at SOU, I was stationed in the library and we had a uh storage area allocated to us, and I'd fit I'd filled it up with some canned food and a change of clothes and other things. So, regardless of where I was, and this is the uh this is the point, this is the Lego idea, regardless of where you are, you're going to have an item here, an item there, and each of these items is going to complement the others. So now you have more food, you have more water, you have different first aid, you're going to need different things on the road than you're going to need around home, than you're going to need around the campsite. So that that's the basic idea. Now I found and I look drives me crazy. I don't think it made it into the bag. I got lots of stuff for today. Ah, it's here. For years you've been buying first aid kits with Mylar blankets in them. I've never found one useful. First of all, they're the size of a bath towel. Looking at that, trying to keep me warm is hysterical. It's like getting under a piece of cardboard and trying to wrap it around you. These are Don't Die in the Woods blankets. You can see the size. They're very light. Don't Die in the Woods. Yeah, those didn't sell as well as they hoped it would. Yeah. The Jim Jones series.

SPEAKER_04

What's the name of that blanket, please?

SPEAKER_00

Don't Die in the Woods.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, that is the name.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Same idea.

SPEAKER_04

Same looking.

Reliable Sources And Broken Links

Bag Types: Home, Get-Home, Road

Staging, Legos Mindset, Car Add-Ons

SPEAKER_00

This is the same idea. This is a blanket. They also make a sleeping bag. They also make a tent, which, if you happen to have 10 or 15 feet of paracord, gee, Bill, where would I get that? This is my I wear this all the time. This is a uh paracord, 600 strand. It's a survivalist. This is how we identify ourselves to each other. We don't have a secret handshake. But if you see somebody wearing one of these, it's uh either they're into macrame or they have a scout troop or they're have a survival interest. There's a knot up at the top. The camera will undoubtedly not pick it up. There's a knot up here. You unravel this and you've got, I think this is a 10-foot, eight to ten feet of 600 strand paracord. You add that to a lanyard, uh, I'm sorry, to the holes in your tarp, or you attach it to your blanket, and you've got a tent, or you hold up the tent and you put this over you. This, and I will take it out and I will give this to someone. You may have this for free as my gift. Uh don't know, shout out at once. But uh the trick is you've got to get it back in the package. I've seen it done once. My sister is very good with these things, and she got one back in the package, which I put out of my email. I do need a co-pilot here. I really do. Uh, you're supposed to have two people to do a uh a hybrid class, and there's just myself. So thank you. Please uh shout it out if you get lost. Okay, one side is reflective, the other side, and they come in different colors. I prefer the camouflage because now you can't see me, but I'm gone. What is different about these? First, they're noisy, but they're flexible. Second, I'm not gonna pull this all the way apart because nobody takes it. I gotta get it back in the silly package. It's seven feet long by five feet wide. I can wrap up in this thing like a burrito, which is the whole idea. You put yourself next to the shiny side, it reflects your body heat. So the idea is this becomes like a food warmer. You wrap up. I went out last time it snowed here. I went out, sat in a chair on the patio, and what I'm wearing, similar to it, I went outside, put the thing in the chair, pulled it around me, pulled it up over my head, got as comfortable as I could. It was 28 degrees, and I sat there for two and a half hours until my wife finally said, I think you've proved the point. Get in here, you fool. This is not going to keep you roasty toasty, but I was comfortable. It traps the heat, it reflects it, it is not going to give you a quiet night of rest. It's going to rustle and crinkle and stuff like that. But unlike it, it is bigger, it is more flexible, and it is durable. I used one for a season and a half. I'd put it near a fire when we built a fire outside. We'd put it behind the fire and it would reflect the heat towards you. Uh, there are a lot of things you can do just with a simple item like this. You could four in a package, and there's a link as we move farther on down. Uh, and they're great. They have a good product line, they have good quality control, and the links are on the site. On the same topic I mentioned fire, it used to be, and you still do, you still need, especially if you're on the way to uh Diamond Lake and get stuck, you there you should be able to build a fire. Not everybody can do that anymore. Used to be you had to have three ways to start a fire. Nowadays, with the climate and the dryness, you have to have three ways to put one out. You'd still need to be able to build a fire. I have a bunch of bic lighters. I'm not Daniel Boone, I'm not a Boy Scout leader. I think it I do know how to take a flint and I have fire starters and it makes sparks and through the shower of sparks. I can do that. If uh under today's conditions, I would be incredibly careful building a fire. If it's just a five-foot circle, make a ten-foot circle. Uh building fire rings is not always the best way to go. Uh, having fire out in the wilderness is very important because you're going to need to heat water, you're going to need to have light, you're going to need to have physical heat for yourself, scare away small woodland creatures or large woodland creatures. So know how to build a fire safely. And if there's enough interest, I'll talk more about it. Snow comes in, you're you're stuck there. What do you have with you? Yes, if you brought your Coleman stove and a canister of gas, that's good. If you've got one of the smaller little canister, and we'll look at some of those as we get down the road. This is a case of being trying to be as highly realistic. This is worst case. What, like if you had to get up and run out of here right now, you got time to grab your bag. What do you got with you? What do you got in your car? That's what we're talking about. This is not a staged, we're going up to the lake next week. Let's get the car packed. Well, you can put an extra blanket and a cot and uh a portable uh solar battery in there if you want to, but this is dealing with the realism of what you've got right now. In the car, okay, the car bag are supplies you're gonna need to get you home. It's also good if you're stuck in the car. And so a lot of people say, well, if I get in the car breaks down, I'm gonna go hike for help. Could be a good idea. It's generally a good idea. A car is a solid structure, and unless it is unsafe, unless you are unsafe, uh, you're gonna want to actually stay with the car. First of all, uh emergency responder going by is going to see a disabled vehicle. Uh, putting a handkerchief is still a good thing on the antenna of the car. I don't think all cars have those anymore. So there are things you can put in the rear window. There are little uh electronic things you can put in the back that'll actually strobe. On the subject of light, we're going there in a minute. This is a light stick. These come in colors. This is white. You take it out of the package, which is the biggest challenge ever. You have to have an edged instrument. You have to have a knife or a pair of nail clippers or good teeth. You break it, and you have white light. Eight to twelve hours. This is bright. This a lightstick. They call it a safety light stick here, non-toxic, non-flammable, weatherproof, slices, dices, and makes Julian fries. 99 cents. You can't beat it. I get them online. Uh I I prefer, on a quick side trip, I prefer to shop locally. Go to uh true value, Ashland Hardware, um camping stores, REI, and Army Navy Marine Stores. I love that place. That's just great. Army Navy Marine Store. It's out by the Sheriff's Department on Highway 62 and Violet's Road. It's on the other side. Side of the street. Good products. Yes. Oh, help them good fire starters, uh, good clothing. We'll talk more on that. Yeah. Well, I was I got sidetracked here water. Uh stay in the car if you can't. Lock has got windows. Uh the bear can get into a car, so that's why we don't want the food exposed in the car. Uh it's interesting. People are always afraid of bears when they go out. I've read the statistics, and snakes and spiders appear to be the biggest problem when you get off the off the path. Not so much in downtown Ashland, although we're going to hear a story about downtown Ashland in a I find fascinating. What did you have in your car? You could have water, you have food, snack bars, and maybe I have a bag of the dehydrated food that you add hot water to, and now you have chili. Oh, it's very good. And what I think is more important than having the food, this has actually happened, but something to eat it with. Be as simple as a spoon, a big spoon from the house. These are great. This is a felony in the state of New York, resident center uh prison in the state of New York because the knife. You aren't in the hinterlands, you've got your bag of food. It's really good to have your utensil to stir it up, to help rehydrate it, and to eat it. And if you have something that you're going to cut, this is handy. I got these. They came at a five pack. One of the survival links I'll share with you, prepper.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

Better Emergency Blankets And Paracord

SPEAKER_00

Although, again, you can get these locally. That's why I'm pushing the local. What I do is I shop online. I look online, I search online, and I'm reading. Amazon's good in that they got the reviews up at the top. They got the five stars, two stars, three stars, and I read what's written. Half of them are whining. It should come and tell. Kill me known. Blue. If that was blue, it'd be a great product. Half is this product failed after three days. I call customer support, they didn't speak English and hung up on me. Okay, now we have a basis for choosing a problem. And a product problem is something you can avoid in the in the beginning. The way to do it. Things you should have in the car. Don't advertise this.

SPEAKER_04

Yes, and what about three? Maps. And the ability to read a map.

Fire Skills: Build And Extinguish

Car Survival: Stay Or Go, Signaling

Light Sticks, Local Gear, And Maps

Meds, Cash, Clothing, And Footwear

Test Your Route And Your Fitness

SPEAKER_00

You're on my screen. Yes, you're on my page. It's on. We're coming up to that if I have a study. I said that last week. The number of people who don't know how to open and fold a map and where North is. This is something our generation. 1955, Grandpa took me hiking in the woods, and we tried, we dealt with compass, we dealt with poison oak, we dealt with map reading, we dealt with blisters, we dealt with all that stuff. And today's generation doesn't know any of that. And there are places you can learn. There are courses you can take. And yes, you should have a map. And do not expect your Google map to work gonna happen. Yeah. I got in downtown Chicago. Building is seeing the Blues brothers with the goofy architecture. Wacker Drive. There I am, right there. I got my Well, you can still hold your phone without it being a class one felony. And you get a signal. All the tall buildings, I might as well have had a brick. I found some of the profiteering and price gouging. Uh gas$20 a gallon, no credit cards. They don't want to proof that they did. Forget if you can. And you don't tell anybody. Yeah, I keep doing$300 in small bills in my car. The neighborhood kids are gonna lie, you're gonna be very popular. They're at the glass shop getting your windows replaced. So things meds in your car. For some of you, that's not an issue. I take 17 a day. Yeah. Fun with uh post-surgery. So um I got certain meds I have to take, some I can skip, obviously. If I don't get my baby aspirin, I'm not gonna fall over. But some of the stuff I gotta have. Uh some people who are on like insulin, it's really important that they take their medication. And insulin needs to be killed. So there's uh if you have to have a medication, you're an inhaler. Every mystery story. Oh, Brittany needs her inhaler. And if she does, and if you don't have an extra one with you, don't want to fool around and not have an extra one. And I know these stupid things are like$900, and that's a whole other discussion. But I've been able to uh braw my physician into getting me enough medicine. I have a 90-day supply. I'm getting online pharmacy, I get 90 days, I talked to them, I said, look, this, that, and the other. Yeah, I'm a local doctor. I was here for the fire, I understand. Talk to your healthcare provider about getting backup medicine. In addition to comfortable shoes and extra clothes should be in your car. Uh, this is, first of all, if you follow the crick and need to change, crick are like creeks, except they're in the Midwest. Well, the crick. Uh I have changed my attire. When we're on full screen, you saw I don't have a coat and tie on. I'm wearing, and we'll when I come back off of this, I'll show you the shirt again. I wear cargo pants. A restaurant in San Francisco made a cop a cop a big thing out of it. You have cargo pants on, sir. Yes, I do. Aren't they nice? Well, this is a uh four-star restaurant. Well, there'll be a lot of things I can put in my pocket to take home than mother. Good thing I have extra pockets in my cargo pants. It didn't end well. Found when you are out on the road. You're prepping. This shirt I'm wearing has the pockets you see, and then it has extra pockets under the pockets. The idea is traveling, I zip the pockets, and my wallet doesn't take a walk with that cute little kid who came up and tried to sell you something. Where did you get that shirt? I got that proper P-R-O-P-P-E-R, proper clothes. Again, these links are going to be popping up. I want you to be aware of them so when you see them, you'll go, oh. So extra shoes, extra socks. Your job requires you to wear a coat and tie, or ladies, if you have to wear heels or a skirt. Some workplaces still require uh more dress attire. Pair of jeans and a pair of sneakers or hiking boots. If you've got to work home, walk home. If I have to go, I live in Phoenix. I gotta walk to Phoenix this morning for some strange reason. I got on good shoes and I'm good with that. I also got an extra coat and I also have water, all that type of stuff. Can you walk that distance? It is, I would say, 10 miles from this spot right here, to where I live. Physically walk 10 miles? Yes, I can. Won't be pretty, but I can do it. Be safe. If I'm on the freeway or if I'm on surface streets, we don't know what's going to be safe then after an earthquake and a fire or whatever. Is it safe? Is it walkable? And uh when was the last time you tried? I know I can walk this far because I have periodically tested myself. When was the last time you actually walk? You've got a light backpack. Don't fill it with 40 pounds of stuff, you'll kill yourself. Uh put on a backpack with some stuff in it, walk around the neighborhood, see how far you get. Neighbors will talk about you for days. It'll be fun. Okay, and this is a good place to stop for this week. We'll come back and we'll have some more updated information for both the new listener and uh kind of memory floggers for you veterans. We began this episode with the John Wayne can opener, as they call them, or the uh P54, P36 opener, and then we went through some basic kind of information. So that's all for this week. We hope to speed up the range. We hope you're gonna combine and tweak the clouds, and then we're gonna have more information to continue to develop right here on community. So I look forward to seeing you next week. I look forward to seeing you out there for classes. I look forward to bumping into uh the Army TV store today. Wherever we meet, it's always good to run across friends. You can study out there, and we'll study it on the case. The pre stating program was a presentation of a retired guy productions. If you are walking home from work, things are already headed south. Is this something you want more information on? Here's some of those checklists you're talking about. The same prepper list of suggested items and further supplies. And here is a wonder. I like the saying prepper. It has pages and pages of stuff in this guide. The psychological impact, you're not alone. You're not the first one going, what do I buy? Where do I find this? How much is it? Mo Larry Cheese. It's okay. We're all in that. I'm still doing it, and I'm at my second decade. So it's okay. So don't be afraid to uh to look at some of these lists. Okay, let's come back to the front. And let's continue with session two. Somebody and uh well, okay, two things. Somebody talked about water in the trunk of their car. So one of you in the forum prior to class said, I can't keep water in the trunk of my car. It keeps breaking and leaking. Me too. That's the problem. I even thought I was gonna get really clever. One of the sites that sells pre-packaged water, it comes in cans, except it's water. Very expensive. It's expensive as beer. And if I'm gonna carry a six-pack of something in my trunk, it's gonna be a six-pack of beer. Because you can wash out a wound with it, you can cook with it, and it's tasty in the evening. So there's that. Uh it's not gonna be, it's gonna taste a little funny on your reconstituted chili, but I find, you know, the little juice pouches the kids get water came in seven-ounce, little plastic wrapped, durable, came in a heavy, nope, bouncing around on the trunk, that leaked all over. I have the cleanest undercarriage, entire wealth in the Tri-County area. The uh water was gonna leak out, which is why I carry on whatever you do, don't get, and I Safeway sales is called signature brand. And it's not just Safeway, it just happens to be the one I remember. They're the plastic bottles, but they're really thin, and you pick them up and they start to actually flex and give, those are gonna let go in a heartbeat. Come around a corner fast, and you're gonna end up uh washing the spare tire. Get the good heavy bottles. I put them on the floor of the back seat. Less bouncing around, nothing falls off the floor, hopefully. And the bottles, I get the good heavy bottles. First of all, they can be reused and refilled. The little crinkly, any of the crinkly, soft, cheap little plastic ones, I do not buy because they will leak and you will end up with a recycling project. You get your dime back, but it's not really that that useful for you. Yeah, Dasani. I like Dasani uh water. D-A-S-A-N-I, Dasani.

SPEAKER_02

That's I'm sorry, Coca-Cola product.

Session One Wrap And Tease

SPEAKER_00

Coca-Cola product. Uh, you can get other, there's hundreds of other good. Pick it up, hold it in your hand. If it crinkles and starts letting go, you don't want it. Uh and if you're paying for tons of uh plastic and I get a Costco I like, or I get a flat of this stuff. I don't want 10,000 of those little things you got to cut all apart so you don't strangle the birds, which I think is a kind thing to do. Uh looking at this stuff, it's important to take a long view of the product. Uh let's see what else.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, somebody d-a-s-a-n I.

SPEAKER_00

A-N-I.

SPEAKER_03

Thank you.

Facing The Overwhelm: Checklists

Water In The Car: What Actually Works

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Okay. Uh, let's see, where was I? Oh, somebody sent in a uh thing in the forum about hey, knowing your neighborhood and what streets go where, in the event of Ashland, especially, this area especially, a lot of streets are spider traps. They're just traffic, you you pull in and you get caught in cul-de-sacks, and you find people in there from two months ago who went to deliver a package. Uh the new P new UPS drivers in tears. I want to see my family. Uh it's really important now to drive around your imaginary escape route, to drive around your neighborhood, and to know what's under construction. Case in point, if you haven't been out Highway 99 through Talent and Phoenix in a while, that's always a good day's trip. Uh, there's usually uh somebody standing there, stop, wait, stop, wait, slow down. Uh, 30 miles an hour, uh, four cliffs and tractors pulling out in and out. In an emergency, this is going to be difficult. Know your neighborhood. We go up to Portland all the time. Uh, ODOT has a site, it shows construction on the way up. I'm going up to Portland next week, next weekend. I'm on the site today looking at what's up ahead. Very, very important. Also, somebody put a uh recommendation for bags. Here we are. This is in the forums. It's a PDF you can download. Uh, Miriam, here, Miriam. Good morning. Uh Miriam, I wanted to know uh what are some of the good bags? Well, I created a PDF bag, and it's got a list of sites to go to, things to think about when you're putting your bag together. You don't want a bag that the straps are thin because those straps are going to cut into your shoulders. You want a bag that's going to fasten around your waist as well as around your shoulders and is adjustable. You want wide straps, not thin straps, all the way through. You want them to be padded. Many backpacks come with a built-in frame. For some of us, that's a good idea. It helps stabilize the backpack when you're walking from point A to point B. There are so many things. My, and I bought a bad backpack. My first backpack, I went running out to the Army Navy store, and I got this 50-liter tactical bag and it's beige, desert beige. It's got, and the first thing that stands out, and for me it's not a problem, it's got three mag carriers, three magazine carriers on it. Now, regardless of how you feel about that, that sends a definite message to others in the group. If you're covered with ammunition and this huge, nice looking pack, that tells people you've got something that might be worth taking. I have a whole section on becoming a gray man, and I've drawn the line through it. It's now you're a gray person. A gray man, a gray woman, a gray couple. It's very important. So there are recommendations here on the here's the document.

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We got to go into the discussion to find that.

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Yes, you do. This is set up to be a uh very much like your Google site. You can all you just click back one, click up one. All right.

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But as far as making links for everybody, are they gonna be in there? They're gonna be within people's discussions, not inside in a link.

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Well, like you just saw right here. Where to go? Here's a link that's gonna take you to the information on the bags I'm giving.

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Yeah. Bob versus inches.

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Well, that's what we're talking about. Bob, bug out bag. They call it a bug out bag or bob.

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This is inch, it's in.

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That well, let's find out.

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I've got the uh not completely clear about how to access all this eating stuff like that.

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Well, I'm I'm in here, but it's like if I have to go back and look for a discussion to find a link, I'll probably that's why I probably Okay.

Know Your Roads And Detours

Choosing The Right Backpack

Be A Gray Person, Not A Target

Fear, Adrenaline, And Decision-Making

Aftershock Emotions And Team Roles

Drills, Audits, And Gear Discipline

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I'm never coming home again. An inch bag means all is lost. Gas has been released in my neighborhood, I'm not coming back. What am I taking with me? Versus I hope to be back. And uh part of this is let's make that a little bigger. It's not a bug out bag, that's an I'm never coming home again bag. And here is the progression. You have little bags getting bigger and bigger until finally you have coolers that you're carrying things with you. This is the what I'm talking about, the Lego approach. This is where you're taking the thing from the house and you're putting it in the thing with the car, and you brought this back from the office because you knew there was trouble, and now you have lots of stuff, and you are able to last longer. This is a great article in that it talks about uh there's a free bug out bag checklist. You're gonna have to do a little work, and I said that when I presented the class. This is not gonna be handed to you. Go ahead and get in here and get your hands dirty, look around, find some stuff. And by the way, even the most prepared people are not clairvoyant. Just because you have prepared doesn't mean it's going to work out perfectly for you. Let's get back on it. Okay. We talked a little bit about this, and I find this very important. Uh, fear paralyzes, planning helps. Fear is going to scare you. We talked about adrenaline flight or fight. When you are seriously scared, and I could, if I got up and started shrieking and yelling, I'd probably scare a couple of you. And you'd you'd feel that. You'd feel those uh those symptoms. Uh, your heart rate's going to kick up, glucose, glucose levels are going to change, uh, respiration, eyes are going to dilate. There's a lot of things. This is to help you survive. When the saber-toothed tiger leapt out into the clearing, this gave you the decision-making process, your prehistoric ancestors. It's also a drug or a natural drug. And when you let go a surge of adrenaline, it's going to do its work and then it's going to die and evate. And after adrenaline, you're going to be shaky. You are going to experience uh confusion. You may not evil, not some people can't find their car keys, some people can't find the car. This is okay. That's what that's the message for this. It's not a bad thing. You're not a failure, you're not a wuss, you're not weak. Uh, there's the physical and that is the emotional. Talk to your health care professional. I'm done, I'm a diabetic. And I've talked to my doctor. I said, doctor, under this certain he said, okay. You notice I always have a little bag with me. I have snacks. I have glucose tablets. I don't take insulin, thank you, Lord, but uh I do occasionally. I can feel it coming. If I start getting really shaky and make less sense than normal, it's time for Bill to get into the bag. Yeah, this happens. I know this, and in an emergency, you'll see me, of all things, chewing on the Snickers or eating a handful of MMs. I'm keeping that blood sugar up artificially and not wisely, but I'm doing what I need to do. The emotional effect of what happens after what happens uh in an emergency can last a lot longer. If you don't do well in the situation, if you freeze, because there's two types of people generally. There's the people who go, okay, let's get this, and jump in and train. The other half will close down, need help, need to be led. The people who jump in and are ready to go, after the situation's over, of which I am, I'm gonna melt. I am gradually gonna come down. The people afterwards are gonna thaw and they're gonna start coming into motion. Sometimes uh, and I have seen it, I have seen people get scared, run off, and leave their spouse. You're on your own, good night. Doesn't make for an interesting conversation later, but it's real. It can happen, it may happen. Don't worry if you get disoriented, if you get guilty, if you're feeling badly. First of all, talk about it. Second of all, uh, here's a silly example. I got a call from a coworker, and he lived right here in Ashland, kind of up by the hospital, that end of town, and he was in Mexico, and I got an international call from Mexico. I'm at the university in the office, ring ring, hi, this is your boss. Hello, boss, Capasa, dude. Uh he said, My daughter just called from the house. I have a bear at the front door. Clayton, it sounded like you said you had a bear at the front door. He said, Yep. He sent me the ring cam picture. Full-size bear at the front door, ringing the bell. If they'd had a pizza, we would have let him in. Daughter was freaked. She did the first thing she could think of, which is to call her dad, who was in Mexico, who could not be of immediate help other than to call Grizzly Adams here, who was three miles away. And so I took a broom and went over, and of course the bear was gone by the time I got there. But everybody was scared, everybody was upset, and it was an unlikely situation. It's gonna happen. You're gonna freeze, it's not bad. Don't tell me what your type is. Are you a freezer or are you gonna jump into action? I don't want to know. That's up to you. If you don't know, think about it. How about your partner? If you have a partner, what is he or she going to do? You need to talk about this. What are they going to do when the excrement hits the air conditioning? And this is going to be a self-realization for you. This should go on paper somewhere that you can write down. This is important. Hold regular discussions on your plans and then revise. When you go get when I previous wife, younger husband, younger son, I went to get our bug out bag. Felt a little light. All those granola bars had disappeared, and the batteries were gone, and my son was out in the garage on his PlayStation. Eating the granola bars. Okay, it happens. I have gone, as I said, in my trunk to look for the water. Bottle broke. Got an empty plastic recyclable bottle worth a dime, at least now. Time for rechargeable batteries, check stuff regularly. If you've got my when I grew up, we had fire drills at our house. Four in the morning, my parents would come in banging pots and pans together. I have never forgiven them for that. I understand, yes, and occasionally a drill is a good idea. Look at what ifs. Look at whens. What happens if our trailer park lost power? Waking up in your home at night at three in the morning is different than waking up in a totally dark park because the night lights are out, the refrigerator hum is gone, the alarm is off, the street lights are out. It is a total different experience. What are you going to do? What do you have? Talk a little bit about lights. Okay, we'll go through this and then we'll take a short break. This is my bedside flashlight. This thing is like the old five, six cell lights policemen used to carry, except this is not full of D batteries. This is full of a lithium battery. This is stainless steel. It has what I affectionately and probably inappropriately call a DNA collector on the front of the light here. Some of you are going, what? And some of you are laughing hysterically. It has other purposes other than a flashlight. This also, considering it weighs a goodly amount, has a recharger. And I don't know if this will pick up on camera or not, but it has a rechargeable port there. So if you're going to recharge your cell phone, you can do it from this. This thing can actually land an aircraft. It has a zoom, you twist the end and the focus will go. And if you hold, and I'm not going to do it in here, if you hold it down a certain way when you bring it, it it'll burn this thing out in 30 minutes. But if you got to see something a half mile, a mile away, you can do it. Now, this is great next to the bed. My wife likes it because it's got a good heft. Get unexpected company, DNA collector, clunk clunk, or, and the term is called bleaching. Like you bleach. clothes sorry to keep asking so many questions but I'm just about this fast a rider the qualities on this one is um it is tell me the what kind of it has lithium batteries it has lithium batteries it's rechargeable uh it has a number of settings it has numbers of settings and all this is written down it's a lot of this is into yeah notice as you see is I'm just trying to avoid burning the camera out notice this is a very bright light people do this sometimes oh in flashes this is great you've got to distress and some of them even do SOS sheriff department loves when it's on SOS and nothing's going wrong you'll make some new and interesting friends in a hurry that way if you get a person come up to you and I actually had to do this I'm walking through my mobile home park with my dog it's 11 o'clock dog's gotta go when a dog's gotta go and there's two guys up by the pool I'm walking I've got actually a small this is the more practical flashlight got my flashlight say hey guys how you doing and I was just being friendly yeah get out of here leave us alone beg your pardon it was I I like to say it was unintentional I shine this right in their face this will blind them this will disorient them then you turn on the strobe light and step to the side because they will start swinging they can't see they're disoriented and you have a large metal object in your hand it changes the balance of power power perceived is power believed that you can write down make a little tea cozy put it over the fireplace power perceived is power believed yes recharge your your like that flashlight when your power's out for two months or you know question bind up things do they're gonna tell you you're you're right on task good question the question at home how do you recharge this stuff if there's a long-term electrical outage what options are available next week I'm bringing in my solar charger my solar panels we'll have show and tell with that the simplest thing they have these go back to the Boy Scouts I had one of these when I was in Boy Scouts what you do is you squeeze the handle and it'll make a little light right now if you do this and then you have an actual switch and you have a light so this is self-contained no batteries required as long as you can you've got you've got uh you've got a flashlight these and the downside a problem of the rechargeables you do need to carry a cord you do need to carry a cord I can attach this to this and recharge it with my cord I also have bigger items for recharging I have solar panels for recharging word solar panels on their own do not recharge they simply produce current you do need to have some sort of battery or some sort of device to put the uh the item in okay it's break time let's take a quick five and then we'll try and uh finish this up I'm gonna pause the recording um Bill what's the company name of your flashlights let me get that for you after I you said you're gonna have a list with all this instead of us always asking you to write it down you got these things yeah ideally we will uh there it is there we go okay resuming recording we are back and uh was just kind of chatting in the room question came up what if you're a single woman or a single person and what do you do and the you this is where you have to get outside your comfort zone and make connections this is where in I live in a mobile home community one side is the uh the fire marshal for the park she's a spark plug no open fires with her around blow out that candle I mean we're serious about that the other side is a person with major disabilities so work together in the event of when it happens we're going over here they're coming over here we're gonna work together we're forming teams you're forming units and that's one thing I think is important in your planning process you do need to work together you do need this is not a solo endeavor it may be you getting yourself out from under the debris uh but yes you're gonna want to have we have a list of who's gonna check in on who I check in on these two those two so it and it takes no time it costs nothing and believe it or not you're gonna find people you just can't stand but you can still work together with I learned that in the military I'll tell you what you're sloshing around out in the jungle you need some help you don't have to have best buddy relationships with this person but you got to be able to count on this person. No they have your back and you have theirs there's a trust you're gonna build that's the level of trust for a serious emergency I recommend you work on creating it's not easy it doesn't happen overnight and is more valuable than money I mentioned the 333 breathing is good. I've been breathing all my life I recommend it determine the best case and use for your situation your age your family the composition and cost smoke conditions minimum the N95 mask the little face mask we all use during COVID at the very least if you don't have that a bandana or a t-shirt the white cotton t-shirt is very very good to have full face and I made a foolish I made a foolish choice I bought a half face respirator I bought that one right there it's got two little detachable hello what happened here you're not sharing your screen we should be back I think I mentioned that leave me alone you will find on a lot of these sites that uh they are excuse me they are rich in pop-ups they like to be helpful they like to pop up site has too many where they pop up and ask for a subscription two or three times in the first minute drop them drop them there's 600 sites out here you don't have to have one okay this is a respirator this is great these little cartridges are replaceable they are specific if you're going to have tear gas in your neighborhood you should get type A if you're going to have smoke from a distant fire you're gonna want type C. If you're gonna have radiation and biological contaminants uh probably really doesn't matter what type of filter you've got uh but that's what these are notice your price point 34 35 dollars not bad at all um so this is uh your first link there for half face a full face respirator is really the way to go and it has the same notice it has common applications fertilizer epoxy house paint gas pepper spray how deep do you have yeah and see there's a very good point the question was oh my god how deep do you go a how much you got b what is the likelihood I got the face thing because we had serious smoke our smoke the last bad fire season was worse than downtown India our air quality was 365 and downtown Dubai was 350 normal is 25 to 30 I quit I was in the military in 68 I smoked cigarettes for a couple of hours and haven't smoked since I'm told the air we were breathing during that fire season was the equivalent of three packs of cigarettes a day so let's uh let's keep an eye I air is important if you're gonna be hiking and running and moving and there's heavy air particulates and stuff you got to be able to keep the things filtered you got to that might be worth your money here's a question fire hoods your house catches fire you put this on your head your head does not burn because it's NOMAX not having my hair on fire is something I am a big fan of and it has a respirator because when your home burns the amount of toxins from the plastics and the seat covers and the plates and the all the different things in the house this is like an escape hood. There's a peripheral site that you also get a wrap you put around yourself. This is if you're on the second floor of your house you don't have a handy little ladder because there's another expense you can get a little ladder it hangs out the second floor and you go down the ladder or you run down the burning staircase with this stuff on. How much does it cost? How likely is it to happen and what is it worth to you I did have all my hair burned off on one occasion I'm gonna get a hood. That's just me water quality of the local streams ah we're gonna go out to the creek and we're or the creek and we're gonna fill up our container here we go we got our water container and we're gonna fill it up and I'll come back to show you the containers in a few minutes but uh oh boy Bear Creek yummy yummy we're gonna have some water don't put your children in it or grandchildren let's go plant the creek grandma Bear Creek is toxic the growers up in the hill their pesticides and chemicals the farm chemicals pesticides fertilizer and manure runoff goes into Bear Creek. You're out there waiting in it bad plan don't drink it. There's things you can do to purify and we're gonna look at some of those the first thing I got into this almost by accident and I'm gonna show you just a few minutes of this this is called Puranize.

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It's fairly inexpensive I use it I like it when we had the no boil I'm sorry we had the boil order in our area in talent after the fire after boil the water I used this worked wonderfully it's effective but it is not fast speed versus effect YouTube survival videos are a genre onto themselves I'm not hearing the audio is anyone else hearing the audio hey everybody thanks for tuning in Will here again with Happily Over Outdoors today I wanted to talk to you about Purianize water purifier drops. Now I've seen a lot of videos on this product coming out where people go out in the woods and they put it in the water and they go hey yeah look it's safe to drink yeah that's all fine and great but I'd like to do a video that just focuses on talking about the technology how these things work because they're definitely very different from a lot of the other products on the market and I want to make sure people understand exactly what makes them different and what makes this such a good product. So how does Pyronize work? Well according to their website Purinize works through the process of coagulation flocculation or CF. It contains a natural combination of coagulating and flocculating mineral salts that disinfect and clarify raw water. CF removes suspended pollutants in the form of microscopic particles or gross organic matter by trapping them and clumping them together to form particulates. These entrapped particulates eventually settle and can be easily removed from the purified water by straining through a regular filter, coffee filter or fine cloth. So to break it down in layman's terms, essentially pyronized clings to all the particulates and chemicals and junk in the water and causes them to clump together so that they can be easily filtered out. Now purinise is a 100% natural mineral based water purifier which definitely sets them apart from most of the other products on the market.

Lights That Defend And Sustain

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This is here if you're really interested and would like to watch more by having please feel free to do so. It's uh inexpensive what it does in case you had a little trouble with the video it takes the guck and it clumps it and forms little things that are going to settle to the bottom that's the time stuff's got to settle out you filter that water through a coffee filter through a water filter through your little sippy straw there's all kinds of things you can do and the water is going to be free from parasites free from particulates one thing that's very important you can't filter out the chemicals the forever chemicals are called forever chemicals because they last how long people forever yes uh let's see I see somebody in chat uh yes it does it's supposed to work on Galardia got a question from home from Joy thank you Joy good question uh it is supposed to work on Galardia there is a uh product website here if you want to go to the website they have much much more product information I use this I like it and I have inscribed on my my things it does not work on forever chemicals you can get Galardia you can get the cysts the parasites the guck but it doesn't work on chemicals and uh that's something a whole nother process let's look at the uh top rated emergency options now here are the other more we're getting into more of that here's the list of stuff I should look at that I promised you Miriam wants to know if you need a shirt to strain out the bad stuff. I use coffee filter but a t-shirt is just as good and I also let it settle the bad stuff's gonna go to the bottom so I'm gonna let it settle and then if you want to get the maximum out of your treated water then you're gonna want to filter it. Uh water once we take it boys and girls we take water so much for advantage unfinished 36 black it's uh you go to the kitchen you turn it on bada bing here are uh three of the best water filters for 2026 all right this is they call it now the British Burkefield it's like a church coffee pot it has two huge carbon filters in here you put the water on top and it fills up the bottom uh the MSR which is a pretty good company uh has a guardian uh you can get these hand operated or batty battery operated and this thing is the Grail Ultrapress which has an obscenely high price$190 and what you basically do is pour water in it and it's like a French press you push this filter down and it's supposed to get a whole lot of bad stuff out of the water it's$389 not$199. Yeah it's uh average cost for this is$180. So it it's spendy stuff. There are other things you can get this thing is ridiculous. This is if you're gonna go to in the middle of nowhere and set up a water filtration.

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It's not that expensive but oh my god the work involved it's a full day setup and it's a full day uh maintenance you have to have somebody skilled in the operation make sure you understand what you're buying and what it's gonna do for you so uh do you need so all you need is a shirt to strain out the bad stuff is the question I have no you need uh these filters you need chemicals uh especially if you've got even just GLADIA or some of the waterborne pathogens the last thing you need is explosive diarrhea and when you're trying to get around downtown in the aftermath or get around the woods this it it's first of all it's debilitating it's gonna make you sick it's gonna slow you down and uh clean water is important to cook to bathe yes about storing water at home um I what I've been doing is putting them in the glass jars and just have them in the utility room so they don't freeze. And uh it's chlorinated water so tap water.

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Right.

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So the chlorination it helps a little bit with preserving the water for you know six six months or so and just change it out.

Power Options: Squeeze, Recharge, Solar

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You're you're pretty close to to go. Yeah I have and I will bring them in we're out of time for this week uh the short version is tap water should last for six months if tightly sealed in a clean container I will put two drops of bleach in there because that's the kind of guy I am uh I use the thing to remember about water is it is heavy six gallons of water is 50 pounds you get these big jerry cans we call them like you're gonna put gasoline in them except they're made for water you get them on Amazon they're about 20 bucks they used to be 15 you got yourself a 50 pound uh item to lug around a gallon's eight five gallons 42 five gallons is I'm sorry I was looking at the wrong numbers my bad five gallons is 50 pounds a gallon is uh 8.3 quarts a pound the world around so we are going to come back next week and we are going to talk more about storing world water tap water should be good at home there is water treatment you can get you should have a lot of it you need a gallon per day per person to drink and then you may want to flush the toilet you can Cannot drink pool water. No, you can take the water out of the pool and pour it down the toilet, but you aren't going to declorinate it and drink it because all the body stuff that's in there. So, any final questions? Uh, somebody said glass can break in an earthquake. So, something to consider. What type of plastic do you get? There's the other half of it. There's so many, it's like a constant yah, but what if? A constant yah, but what if? Why, yeah, but do the best you can. Get do the research first. And that's why I'm holding back. I want you to ask these questions. Well, I got all these great containers, but they're glass and they're up on a shelf. Well, nothing falls off the floor, but they do fall off the shelves. Is the shelf gonna fall over on your stuff and you can can you get to it? It it's a crapshoot. The game is rigged, boys and girls. Nobody gets out alive. Okay? I think that's something we should take. Uh yeah, uh, that's something we should uh yeah, we should remember. Okay, uh out of time, out of uh mind. Let's look at the front of the thing for getting in. I'm sorry about the problem on the I'm following directions. Sorry, problem on the new link. I will have that link. That should be your link for the rest of the time, and that password should be the same password. So with that said, we're gonna stop the recording. I say thank you very much. You've been a

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